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National 8M Torch and Accessories

National 8M torch for
glass lamp workers, bead makers, flame workers,
glass blowers, button makers, and marble makers


 lampworking-torch-8m-national
This is the most versatile torch made!
It can hold a great variety of tips - both pre-mix tips and surface mix tips.
You Can Order Parts Separately
OR
Order one of the pre-packaged kits below.
If you do not know which one to get - order the 8M7 which is a good all around torch and tip.
OR we wouldn't mind if you ordered the 8MtheWORKS, includes most everything.
To watch a RealPlayer video of this torch Click Here
You Can Order parts Separately.
Torch Body Only #8M
List for 166
Our Low Price - $158

Tips are listed below at the bottom of this page. Or order one of the pre-packaged kits below.
If you do not know which one to get - order the 8M7 which is a good all around torch and tip.
OR order the 8MtheWORKS
Our LOW price is $158
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8M Body Torch Body with the SM5 Surface Mix Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8M5 for $230


OR
Torch Body with the SM7 Surface Mix Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8M7 for $230

Order Number SM5 or SM7

List Price - $245
Our Low Price - $230
Order Number 8M5 for $230

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Order Number 8M7 for $230

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Torch Body with the SM21 Surface Mix
A LARGE Flame Tip
Melts both Soft and Hard Glass



Order Number 8MT21

List Price - $281
Our Low Price - $253
Our Low Price  $253

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Torch Body with Two Tips - an HTC1 Tip and a Second larger Bushier Flame Tip - Includes the required PA-11 Adaptor - These Pre Mix Tips Melt only Hard Borosilicate Glass like Pyrex



Order Number 8M2

List Price - $297
Our Low Price - $259
Our Low Price  $259

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  Mount a second tip on your Torch Body. WOW you can put all sizes of Pre Mix Tips in the Top Torch. In the Bottom Torch you can put ANY size or type of tip we carry, surface or premix. A common combination is the HTC1 premix in the top and the large flame SM21 surface mix in the bottom. If you want this combination, order the 8MR121 setup for $469 - Includes the manifold hose setup,Ryder, PA-11 adapter,SM21 and HTC1 tips



Order Number 8MR121

List Price - $510
Our Low Price - $469
Our Low Price  $469

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  Get the Works!   Why not get just about Everything! You get the 8M, Ryder, Manifold, PA-11 Adaptor, SM7 tip, SM21 tip, HTC1 tip and the HTC3 tip.

 

Order Number 8MtheWORKS

List Price - $649
Our Low Price - $589
Our Low Price  $589

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You need the following equipment to use this torch:
  1. Oxygen Regulator - Prices are below
  2. Propane Regulator - Prices are below
  3. Hose - Prices below details and setup
  4. Oxygen Tank - details
  5. Propane Tank

This 8M torch with the surface mix tips listed on this page, you can use all kinds of glass, both Hard Glass. Borosilicate Glass (Pyrex, Duran, Kimble, Schott, Northstar, Alchemy, Momka, etc) or
Soft glass (Moretti, Effetre, Bullseye)
.
Although Pre-Mix tips work Hard Borosilicate Pyrex type glass FASTER!
But the beauty of this torch is that you can convert it to a torch that can be
used for either soft or hard glass by changing the tip..
What you can make with this torch.
   Soft Glass Hard Glass
 Beads and Buttons  Yes  Yes
 Beads and Buttons with intricate detail  Yes  No
 Marbles, Paperweights  Yes  Yes
 Marbles, Paperweights with intricate detail  Yes  No
 Sculptures  No  Yes
 Blow Vessels or Ornaments  No  Yes
 Glassblowing  No  Yes
 Blow Pipes, Bubblers  No  Yes
This is just a guideline - a good lampworker can make most anything.

Item # Some Items Individually Priced Price
8m Torch Body   Torch Body and base only

  Tips are extra.
$158

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torch mounted marvering pad for 8M National Torch Torch Mounted Marvering Pad

for the 8M National Torch

Item # 104016a

Made in the USA!
$29

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ryder torch  Ryder Torch Attachment, Mounts on top of 8M Torch - You mount it using the two holes on top of the 8M Torch Body
ryder torch
$99

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ryder torch  Hose Manifold Set for Ryder Torch - Assembled - Plumbs both torches to one hose set $49

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PA11

Adaptor

PA11

 You must use this adaptor to be able to use any of the pre-mix tips listed on this page when using the National 8M torch.
$47

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A2 Fitting

A set of oxygen and propane fittings are required if your hose has cut ends. These are not needed if your hose has B size brass fittings on the ends.
Set of 2

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TIPS for the National 8M Torch
These single hole TIPS work with the National 8M Torch.
when the PA11 adaptor is used. They also fit 3ab, 3bb, 3h, 6b torches.

Tips for the National 8M Torch: OX-1, OX-2, OX-3, OX-4, OX-5 Single Orifice / One Holed Pre-Mix Tips
Single Orifice - Pre-Mix Tips
Tips for the National 8M Torch HTM-0, HTM-1, HTM-2, HTM-3, HTC-0, HTC-1, HTC-2, HTC-3 Multiple Orifice/Multiple Hole Torch Tip
Multiple Orifice - Pre-Mix Tips
If these tips are to be used with the 8M torch, a PA-11 adaptor is required. It is shown further up this page. They also fit 3ab, 3bb, 3h, 6b torches

Volume Discount for Torch Tips
By purchasing multiple tips in group tip discount you
can receive up to 25% off your purchase.

If your purchase of the qualifying torch tips exceeds $60 put in coupon code TORCHTIPS1 to receive a 10% discount.
If your purchase of the qualifying torch tips exceeds $90 add coupon code
TORCHTIPS2 to receive an additional 10% for total of 20% discount.
If your total purchase of the qualifying torch tips exceeds $120.00 enter the first two coupons plus this coupon
TORCHTIPS3 and you will receive an additional discount of 5% for a total of 25% Discount

Order #

Description of tip also this group of tips qualifies for tip discount Price
  OX-00 One Hole -.020 Smallest size
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$22
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  OX-0 One Hole .032
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$21
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  OX-1 One hole  .042
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$17
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  OX-2 One Hole  .055
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$14
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  OX-3 One Hole .07
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$14
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  OX-4 One Hole .082
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$14
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  OX-5 One Hole - Largest size
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch .1
$14
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Order #

Description of tip also this group of tips qualifies for tip discount Price
 HTM-0  7 holes - each .04 inch diameter holes
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$39
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 HTM-1  9 holes - each .04 inch diameter holes
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$39
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 HTM-2  9 holes - each .048 inch diameter holes
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$39
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 HTM-03  9 holes - each .055 inch diameter holes
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 3H, 6A, 8M torch
$39
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Order #

Description of tip also this group of tips qualifies for tip discount Price
 HTC-0  7 holes - Silent Burn
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 6A, 8M torch
$41
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 HTC-1  12 holes - Silent Burn
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 6A, 8M torch
$44
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 HTC-2  19 holes - Silent Burn
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 6A, 8M torch
$49
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 HTC-3  31 holes - Silent Burn click here to see the HT3 tip fired up
Fits 3ab, 3bb, 6A, 8M torch
$55
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CAUTION - all tips are subject to burning out if you have an improper torch adjustment. The HT-2 and HT-3 are the most sensitive tips to burning out and these are not recommended for beginners who are learning how to adjust their torches properly - therefore these and all tips are not guaranteed from burning out. Please see the person who instructed you to learn the proper torch adjustment.

Ribbon Burner Tips

Order # Description Price
Ribbon Burner TipsRibbon Burner Tips  Ribbon Burner
  3/4" Long
  12 hole
  #1680
$65

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Ribbon Burner Tips
 Ribbon Burner
 2" Long
  15 holes
  #1681
$91.80

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PA11 Adaptor
 #PA-11
Required for ribbon burner tips when using the National 8M torch
$47

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Surface Mix Tips
These tips can be used with the 8M Torch.
YES you can have a torch with both surface mix tips AND pre mix tips
These Surface Mix torches work with both the soft and hard (Pyrex) glass.
Simply insert the tip you want into the National 8M Torch!
  tips-8m-national-sm7-sm21-lg Flame Boy Pointing
 The PA-11 adaptor is not needed with these surface mix tips.
Order # Description Price
SM-5 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch - The flame of this tip is very much like the Minor Burner Torch Flame. $82

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SM-7 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch
With this tip you can adjust the size for the flame. A low valve setting will give a more pointed flame. Turn up the valves and you get a larger diameter flame. see pictures below.
$82

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SM-11 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch
With this tip you can adjust the size for the flame. A low valve setting will give a more pointed flame. Turn up the valves and you get a larger diameter flame.
$104

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SM-21 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch - large flame
*This tip may pop when turning the torch on or off
$109

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The below is a comparison between the 8M Torch and the popular Minor Bench Burner Torch.
Flame Compairision Flame Compairision
when the 8M torch is adjusted low, you can get a small pointed flame which is good for doing detail work on soft glass. When the torch is adjusted higher, you get an increasingly larger and bushier flame,
Big-O-Flame
















Gas Equipment

For lampworkers, Glass Beadmakers and Glassblowers

Sundance Art Glass M5 Oxygen Concentrator Oxygen Concentrators Click Here to see our Extreme Oxygen Products Oxygen Concentrators

Click Here to see our Oxygen Generator Systems International (OGSI) Oxygen Concentrators

Foot Pedals foot pedalfoot pedal Click here to see our foot pedals

Gas Regulators

Two regulators are required when you use a two gas, (oxygen and propane) torch. They fit between the gas tanks and the gas hose. None are needed if you are using the Hot Head torch. Oxygen Regulator is not needed if you are using an Oxygen Concentrator.

Item# Description Price
regulator-oxygen-lampworking-glass-beadmaking-glassblowing OXYGEN REGULATOR
Two gauge. One Stage - Click Here for information about regulators, about OUR regulators and warranty.

Inlet CGA 540. Outlet male "B" fitting.

Order Number REB93
List Price: $85 Our Low
Price:$77

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regulator-fuel-lampworking-glass-beadmaking-glassblowing FUEL GAS REGULATOR - Propane, Propylene, or Acetylene
Two gauge. One Stage -  Click here for information about regulators, about OUR regulators and warranty.

Inlet CGA 510. Outlet male "B" fitting.

Order Number REB11
List Price: $85
Our Low
Price: $77

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regulator-hydrogen-lampworking-glass-beadmaking-glassblowing-lg HYDROGEN FUEL REGULATOR -
Order Number REB01
Requires A hose fittings
List Price: $86
Our Low
 Price:$59
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Priced to sell!
More than 30% off!!!
regulator-hydrogen-lampworking-glass-beadmaking-glassblowing-lg HIGH PRESSURE OXYGEN REGULATOR -
For torches that consume 25 PSI or more.
Will run up to approximately 50 PSI
Order Number REB00
Requires B hose fitting
List Price: $86
Our Low
Price: $75
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Gas Hoses Gas Twin Hose Set

Use this hose when you use a two gas torch (oxygen and propane). To attach torch, push the cut ends onto the torch and secure with a hose clamp. These are twin hose sets, one for oxygen and one for propane. The brass end of the hoses are attached to the gas regulators. Propane hose fittings are left handed threads and colored red and oxygen is right handed and colored green - This prevents a mix-up when attaching hoses.


CAUTION Do not use the easy to find oxygen/acetylene type hoses. The propane gas will rot them. The hoses we sell are made for all types of gas including propane. Hose ends have female brass fittings.


Item # Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T124 12 ft (3.7 meters) Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side
1/4" diameter hose
$22
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T254 25 ft (7.7 meters) Female "B" fitting on both ends
1/4" diameter hose
$34
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The below larger diameter hose is only used if when you need a large hose to fit over the large inlet fittings on some torches. (You can get the smaller 1/4" hose listed above on these large inlet fittings with a bit of effort. A trick is to immerse the end of the hose in very hot water to soften the end.)

Order #

Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T128 12 ft (3.7 meters) Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side
3/8" diameter hose
$29.50
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T258 25 ft (7.7 meters) Female "B" fitting on both ends
3/8" diameter hose
$52.00
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Y - Connectors for Hose


Gas Y Connectors
Y Connector - Connect this fitting at the output of the regulator and attach two hoses so you can use two torches from the same tank. Oxygen and propane Y are packaged and priced separately.

Y Connector with valves - Same as the Y connector described above except has two on/off valves, one for each hose.

Item# Description Output end Input end Price
101 Y hose connector (oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $19.50
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102 Y hose connector (propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $19.50
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111V Y hose connector with valve (Oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $32.50
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112V Y hose connector with valve (Propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $32.50
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* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used.


Caps for "B" Size Hose


Gas Caps
The safe and proper way to cap of the end of a fitting. Available for Oxygen and Fuel


Item# Description Price
927 Cap For "B" Size Hose-Oxygen $3.95
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928 Cap For "B" Size Hose-Fuel $3.95
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Flashback Arrestors


Flashback Arrestors
In some rare situations, a flame can travel back down a hose to the gas tank and cause an explosion.

This device helps prevent this reverse gas flow and flashback by using a reverse flow check valve and a flame arrestor.

Packaged and priced with both an oxygen and a propane arrestor.


Item# Description Output End Input End Price
FA-30 flash back arrestors
Flashback Arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas)

Connects directly to the regulator. This arrestor is the easiest to connect and the most popular.

Item #FA30
Male B size gas hose fitting Female B size gas hose fitting $56.00
FA-10 flash back arrestors
Flashback Arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas)

Connects directly to the fittings on a torch like the 3AB, 8M and Carlisle. We also include the fitting so you can put this arrestor in the middle of your twin hose. You may also need the A2 fittings listed below.

Item #FA10
Female B size hose fitting
Male B size fitting using the included adaptor
Male B size hose fitting $56.00 click here to purchase
hose fittings
1/4" Barbed Hose Fittings for Torch

For use with torches that have B (screw on) fittings to accomodate cut-end hoses. Insert barbed fitting into cut end of hose and secure with included hose clamp. Be sure to check for leaks.

Item #A2
One side Female B size hose fitting Other side a barb that fits in a 1/4" gas hose - use a hose clamp $5.00
hose fittings
3/8" Barbed Hose Fittings for Torch

For use with torches that have B (screw on) fittings to accomodate cut-end hoses. Insert barbed fitting into cut end of hose and secure with included hose clamp. Be sure to check for leaks.

Item #A3
One side Female B size hose fitting Other side a barb that fits in a 3/8" gas hose - use a hose clamp $5.00
fitting hose to hose
Oxygen and Fuel Gas Fittings

Allows you to connect a hose to another hose to make a longer hose (hoses need B size fittings)

Item #A30 (Oxygen)
Item #A31 (Fuel)
Male B size gas hose fitting Male B size gas hose fitting A30 $1.50

A31 $1.50 ea

Note: Flashback arrestors have an arrow stamped on them to indicate the gas flow direction.
Works in only one direction.
 
flashback arrestors
  A2 optional, not always needed and are not included.

* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used. Requires B size fittings on hose.


QDF30

Four Functions in a single item.
  • A flashback arrestor
  • A quick connect and disconnect
  • An automatic shutoff valve
  • An internal reverse flow check valve all

Shorter and less expensive than if purchased separately.
Combination Flashback Arrestor and Quick Connect
Item# QDF30 - $89.00




Leak Detection Fluid

Item# Description Price
leak detection fluid
LT100
Leak Detection Fluid 4oz bottle

A must if you assemble your gas equipment. Use when connecting gas hoses, regulators, torches, flashback arrestors, quick connects, etc.

After tightening your fittings, pressurize your gas line. Then dribble a few drops on every fitting. If there is a leak, you will see bubbles at the leaky fitting. You may hear about using soap to check for leaks. It is VERY DANGEROUS! Many soaps have oil in it and oil + pressurized oxygen can be very dangerous. Google it! This liquid is specially formulated just for this purpose and is the only liquid you should use for checking gas leaks.

$6.95
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Hose Quick Connects



Makes an easy job out of disconnecting and reconnecting your torch.

Disconnect your torch switching to a different torch or to put it away for safe keeping.

Great for quick classroom set up and take down.

Item# Description Input end is a Output end is a Price
QDB10 Quick Connects (pair) Male B gas hose fitting Female B fitting $54
QDB20 Quick Connects (pair)
usually used for hose to hose connection
Male B gas hose fitting Male B gas hose fitting $54
QDB30 Quick Connects (pair) Female B fitting
usually connects to Regulator
Male B hose fitting $54


Manifold Gas System


Gas Manifold

Connect up to six torches to the same gas supply with this manifold system. Included are enough fittings and plugs to make 2 to 6 hose connections. Two manifolds are required, one for oxygen and one for propane. All Brass.

Custom Manifold Systems:
We can help you figure out which parts you would need for your system and pre assemble for no extra charge. Systems might also include quick connects and flashback arrestors.

Item# Description Price
M6 Manifolds system, Includes 1 block, 7 fittings and 4 plugs - two required - specify Oxygen or Propane $57.50



Item# Description Price
MB7 Manifold block only, works with oxygen or gas $39.00
32 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard right handed thread oxygen "B" size hose fitting. $1.50
33 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard left handed thread gas "B" size hose fitting. Gas fittings have a "line notch" stamped into the nut part of the fitting to identify it as left handed threading. $1.50
P41P Extra Plug - plugs unused outlets in the manifold block $2.00

Manifold for 3 torches

Manifold setup for 3 torches.





Manifold Splitters



Splitters allow you to run more than one regulator. If your running multiple torches off one tank this allows
different pressures to each torch Click here for a better description and to see how they work.

Item Description Price
Propane Splitter
F271735
Propane Splitter with Check Valves. Run more than one Regulator $32.00
Propane Splitter
T15
 Propane Splitter. Run more than one regulator, no check valves $39.00



Spark Lighter


Order# Description Price
1501 Used to light torches. Squeeze the handles together to cause a spark. $3.00

Work Surfaces

For Torch Lampworking, Glassblowing and Glass Bead making


rod rest Troch Mount Dimensions are approximate ± 0.5"
Item # Size Description Price
Stainless Steel work surface for lampworking glass beadmaking and glassblowers #1617
12" x 13"

Stainless Steel Work Surface - 12" x 13" flat area, heavy .030" thick metal. One edge is bent so you can wrap it over the edge of your work bench. The far edge is also bent upright so you have a nice 9" long rest for your colored glass rods.

$16
work surface for lampworking glass beadmaking blassblowing #1636
17" x 18"

Stainless Steel Work Surface - 17" x 18" flat area, heavy thick metal. Actually a bit smaller so we can fit it in a standard box. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent upright so you have a nice 18" long rest for your colored glass rods. May need to be shipped in it's own box.

$29
work surface for lampworking glass beadmaking blassblowing #1638
16" x 24"

Stainless Steel Work Surface - 16" x 24" flat area, heavy thick metal. Actually a bit smaller so we can fit it in a standard box. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent upright so you have a nice 24" long rest for your colored glass rods. May need to be shipped in it's own box.

$38
worksurface for lampworking glass beadmaking and glassblowing #1644
13" x 18"

Stainless Steel Work Surface - 13" x 18" flat area, heavy thick metal. Actually a bit smaller so we can fit it in a standard box. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent upright so you have a nice 18" long rest for your colored glass rods. May need to be shipped in it's own box.

$24
work surface 1659 #1659
16" x 30"

Stainless Steel work surface - actually 16" x 30" flat area, heavy thick metal. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent upright so you have a nice 30" long rest for your colored glass rods. May need to shipped in it's own box.

$49
Accessories pictured not included
Morretti Northstar Boroscilicate Pyrex Effetre colored glass rods resting and holding place. Durable, portable, stainless steel, can also go inside your glass bead sculpture kiln Glass Rod Rests This movable rod rest is used to support glass rods to keep them up off the flame worker's workbench for easier grabbing, better organization, and to keep the glass rods cleaner. The rippled edge keeps the rods from rolling around. These durable stainless steel rod holders can also be placed inside a glass bead kiln to support your mandrels.

Item# Description Price
rod and tool rest #RRT8 - 8" Rod rest - fits inside 9" kilns or on your workbench
Volume Pricing
Buy 1 6.00
Buy 2 $5.40
Buy 4 $4.80
Buy 8 $4.20
$6.00

Qty:


tool and rod rest for lampworkers #RRT12 - 12" Rod rest - fits inside 13" kilns or on your workbench
Volume Pricing
Buy 1 $9.00
Buy 2 $8.10
Buy 4 $7.20
Buy 8 $6.30
$9.00
Qty:
tool and rod rest for lampworkers #RRT17 - 17" Rod rest - fits inside 18" kilns or on your workbench
Volume Pricing
Buy 1 $11.00
Buy 2 $9.90
Buy 4 $8.80
Buy 8 $7.70
$11.00
Qty:
tool and rod rest for lampworkers #RRT8T - 8" Rod Rest
Extra Tall
for easy Grabbing

Volume Pricing
Buy 1 $9.00
Buy 2 $8.10
Buy 4 $7.20
Buy 8 $6.30

$9.00
Qty:


tool and rod rest for lampworkers #RRT12T - 12" Rod Rest
Extra Tall
for easy Grabbing

Volume Pricing
Buy 1 $12.00
Buy 2 $10.80
Buy 4 $9.60
Buy 8 $8.40
$12.00

Qty:
rod and tool rest #RRT17T - 17" Rod Rest
Extra Tall
for easy Grabbing

Volume Pricing
Buy 1 $14.00
Buy 2 $12.60
Buy 4 $11.20
Buy 8 $9.80

$14.00
Qty:
glass-rod-rest-lampworking
Difference between standard and tall rod rests.






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