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National 8M torch and accessories

National 8M torch for glass lamp workers, bead makers, flame workers, glass blowers, buttonmakers, and marble makers



You Can Order Parts Seperately

OR

Order one of the pre-packaged kits below.
If you do not know which one to get - order the 8MT which is a good all around torch and tip.
OR we wouldn't mind if you ordered the 8MtheWORKS, includes most everything.

You Can Order parts Seperately

Torch Body #8M is $139

Tips are listed below at the bottom of this page.

Or order one of the pre-packaged kits below. If you do not know which one to get - order the 8M7 which is a good all around torch and tip. OR order the 8MtheWORKS

Torch Body with the SM5 Surface Mix Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8M5 for
$219

OR

Torch Body with the SM7 Surface Mix Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8M7 for
$219

Torch Body with the SM21 Surface Mix LARGE Flame Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8MT21 for
$229
Torch Body with Two Tips - an HTC1 Tip and a Second larger Bushier Flame Tip - With the required Adaptor - These Pre Mix Tips Melt only Hard Glass like Pyrex
Order Number 8M2 for
$209
 

Mount a second tip on your Torch Body. WOW you can put all sizes of Pre Mix Tips in the Top Torch. In the Bottom Torch you can put ANY size or type of tip we carry, surface or premix.

A common combination is the HTC1 premix in the top and the large flame SM21 surface mix in the bottom. If you want this combination, order the 8MR121 setup for $399 - Includes the manifold hose setup.

 

Get the Works!

 

Why not get just about Everything! You get the 8M, Ryder, Adaptor, SM7 tip, SM21 tip, HTC1 tip and the HTC3 tip.
Order Number 8MtheWORKS for
$549

You need the following equipment to use this torch:
  1. Oxygen Regulator - Prices are below
  2. Propane Regulator - Prices are below
  3. Hose - Prices below details and setup
  4. Oxygen Tank - details
  5. Propane Tank

This 8M torch with the surface mix tips listed on this page, you can use all kinds of glass, both Hard Glass Borosilica Glass (Pyrex, Duran, Kimble, Northstar) or Soft glass. Although Pre-Mix tips work Hard Borasilica Pyrex type glass FASTER! But the beauty of this torch is that you can convert it to a torch that can use hard glass by changing tips.

What you can make with this torch.
   Soft Glass Hard Glass*
 Beads and Buttons  Yes  Yes
 Beads and Buttons with intricate detail  Yes  No
 Marbles, Paperweights  Yes  Yes
 Marbles, Paperweights with intricate detail  Yes  No
 Sculptures  No  Yes
 Blow Vessels or Ornaments  No  Yes
 Glassblowing  No  Yes
 Blow Pipes, bubblers  No  Yes

Item # Some Items Individually Priced Price
8M Torch body and base only, tips are extra. $139
 Ryder 8R  Ryder Torch Attachment, Mounts on top of 8M Torch - You mount it using the two holes on top of the 8M Torch Body $99
 RyderHose 8RM  Hose Manafold Set for Ryder Torch - Assembled - Plumbs both torches to one hose set  $45
 PA-11  Adaptor - You must use this adaptor to be able to use any of the pre-mix tips listed on this page.  $39
 A2  A set of oxygen and propane fittings are required if your hose has cut ends. These are not needed if your hose has B size brass fittings on the ends.  Set of 2
$4


TIPS for the National 8M Torch
TIPS for the National 8M Torch
Tips for the National 8M Torch: OX-1, OX-2, OX-3, OX-4, OX-5 Single Orifice / One Holed Pre-Mix Tips

Single Orifice - Pre-Mix Tips

If these tips are to be used with the 8M torch, a PA-11 adaptor is required. Click here to see above.

Order #

Gas Description  Hole size in inches Price
OX-00 Oxygen One Hole - Smallest size  .020 $17
OX-0 Oxygen One Hole  .032 $16
OX-1 Oxygen One hole  .042 $13
OX-2 Oxygen One Hole  .055 $10
OX-3 Oxygen One Hole  .07 $10
OX-4 Oxygen One Hole  .082 $10
OX-5 Oxygen One Hole - Largest size  .1 $10

Thread size 7/16-24

Tips for the National 8M Torch HTM-0, HTM-1, HTM-2, HTM-3, HTC-0, HTC-1, HTC-2, HTC-3 Multiple Orifice/Multiple Hole Torch Tip

Multiple Orifice

Order #

Description Price
HTM-0 7 holes - each .04 inch diameter holes $31
HTM-1 9 holes - each .04 inch diameter holes $31
HTM-2 9 holes - each .048 inch diameter holes $31
HTM-03 9 holes - each .055 inch diameter holes $31

Order #

Description Price
HTC-0 7 holes - Silent Burn $30
HTC-1 12 holes - Silent Burn $32
HTC-2 19 holes - Silent Burn $37
HTC-3 31 holes - Silent Burn click here to see the HT3 tip fired up $42

CAUTION - all tips are subject to burning out if you have an inproper torch adjustment. The HT-2 and HT-3 are the most sensitive tips to burning out and these are not recommended for beginners who are learning how to adjust their torches properly - therefore these and all tips are not guarenteed from burning out. Please see the person who instructed you to learn the proper torch adjustment.


Ribbon Burner Tips: Two and one inch Ribbon Burner Tips: 2' long with 15 holes #1668081, and 3/4" 12 holes #1
Ribbon Burner Tips

Order #

Description Price
1680 3/4" - 12 hole $50
1681 2" - 15 holes $60
 PA-11  Adaptor Required for the ribbon burner tips.  $39

Surface Mix Tips

YES you can have a torch with both surface mix tips AND pre mix tips (pre-mix tips are listed on a different page)
These Surface Mix torches work with both the soft and hard (Pyrex) glass.
Simply insert the tip you want into this National 8M Torch!

The PA-11 adaptor is not needed with these surface mix tips.

Order #

Description Price
SM-5 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch - The flame of this tip is very much like the Minor Burner Torch Flame. $76
SM-7 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch
With this tip you can adjust the size fo the flame. A low valve setting will give a more pointed flame. Turn up the valves and you get a larger diameter flame. see pictures below.
$76
SM-21 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch - large flame $94


when the 8M torch is adjusted low, you can get a small pointed flame which is good for doing detail work on soft glass. When the torch is adjusted higher, you get an increasingly larger and bushier flame,


Accessories for the 8M Torch

There is 2 screw holes on top of the torch where you will need to mount the Marvering pad and the Shield.

Order #

Description Price
1587 Torch Mounted Marvering Pad for 8M Torch $39

Work Surfaces

Protect your work table

A comfortable pair of padded foam armrests and worksurface and rodrest all in one! All stainless steel. Pictured with a Minor Burner not included.

No.  Size

Description 

List Price
1631 9-1/2" x 11" Stainless Steel Work Surface - 9-1/2" x 11" flat area, heavy .030" thick metal. One edge is bent so you can wrap it over the edge of your work bench. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 11" long rest for your colored glass rods. Made in the USA $12
1617 11" x 14" Stainless Steel Work Surface - 11" x 14" flat area, heavy .030" thick metal. One edge is bent so you can wrap it over the edge of your work bench. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 14" long rest for your colored glass rods. Made in the USA $16
1632 11" x 17" Stainless Steel Work Surface - 11" x 17" flat area, heavy .030" thick metal. One edge is bent so you can wrap it over the edge of your work bench. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 17" long rest for your colored glass rods. Made in the USA $19
1633 13" x 24" Stainless Steel work surface - 13" x 24" flat area, heavy thick metal. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 24" long rest for your colored glass rods. PLUS if this is shipped, it must go in it's own box. No boxing fee. Made in the USA $29
1639 22.5"x 28" Stainless Steel work surface - actually 22.5" x 28.5" flat area, heavy thick metal. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 28" long rest for your colored glass rods. PLUS if this is shipped, it must go in it's own box plus add a $4 boxing fee. Made in the USA $45
1641 20"x 28" Stainless Steel work surface - with Arm rests and built on rod rest - 20" x 30" flat area - see picture above - PLUS if this is shipped, it must go in it's own box plus add a $4 boxing fee. Made in the USA $65


Morretti Northstar Boroscilicate Pyrex Effetre colored glass rods resting and holding place. Durable, portable, stainless steel, can also go inside your glass bead sculpture kiln. Glass Rod Rests This movable rod rest is used to support glass rods to keep them up off the flameworker's workbench for easier grabbing, better organization, and to keep the glass rods cleaner. The rippled edge keeps the rods from rolling around. These durable stainless steel rod holders can also be placed inside a glass bead kiln to support your mandrels. Made in the USA

Order #

Description 

Price
RRT8 8" Rod rest - fits inside 9" kilns or on your workbench $5
RRT9 9" Rod rest - fits inside 10" kilns or on your workbench $6
RRT17 16" Rod rest - fits inside 18" kilns or on your workbench $11

The fastest way to order any of these items is to call us toll free at 1-888-4HOTGLASS.


Gas Regulators

Two regulators are required when you use a two gas, (oxygen and propane) torch like a Minor Burner. They fit between the gas tanks and the gas hose. None are needed if you are using the Hot Head torch.

Order #

Gas Description Price
REB93 Oxygen Two gauge. One Stage Click Here for warranty $65
REB11 Propane Two gauge. One Stage - Click here for an important choice you need to make - Click here for warranty $65
260 Propane Two gauge. Two Stage $250


Gas Hoses

Use this gas hose when you use a two gas torch that uses oxygen and propane. (This is not needed for a HotHead Torch). Our hoses is a double hose, one for oxygen and one for propane. Most torches are attached to the torch hose by pushing the cut end of a hose on to the torch inlets and securing with a hose clamp. The other end of the hoses are attached to the gas regulators or flashback arrestors. Propane hose fittings are always left handed threads and oxygen is right handed so there is never a mixup attaching hoses. The green hose is oxygen and propane is red. CAUTION Do not use the easy to find oxygen/acetylene type hoses. The propane gas will rot them. The hoses we sell are made for all types of gas including propane. All hose endings have brass fittings and are female. Place an order.

Order #

Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T124B

12 ft (3.7 meters)
Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side - 1/4" diameter hose $22
T254BB

25 ft (7.7 meters)
Female "B" fitting on both ends - 1/4" diameter hose $34

Y - Connectors for Hose

Y Connector - Connect this fitting at the output of the regulator and attach two hoses so you can use two torches from the same tank. Oxygen and propane Y are packaged and priced separately.

Y Connector with valves - Same as the Y connector described above except has two on/off valves, one for each hose.

Order # Description Output end is a Input end is a Price
101 Y hose connector (oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $10.50
102 Y hose connector (propane hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $10.50
101V Y hose connector with valve (Oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $22
102V Y hose connector with valve (Propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $22


Flashback Arrestors

Flashback Arrestors - In some rare situations, a flame can travel back down a hose to the gas tank and cause an explosion. This device helps prevent this reverse gas flow and flashback. This device uses a reverse flow check valve and a flame arrestor that stops this flashback flame. Packaged and priced with both an oxygen and a propane arrestor.
A2 is optional, not included.

Order # Description Output end is a Input end is a Price
FA30 Flashback arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas) Connects directly on the regulator. male B size gas hose fitting Female B size gas hose fitting $54
FA10 Flashback arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas) Connects directly to the fittings on a torch like the 3AB, 8M and Carlisle. We also include the fitting so you can put this arrestor in the middle of your twin hose. A good place to put this arrestor is a couple feet away from the torch. If you cut the hose you will not have fittings on the ends. Then order one or two pair of A2 fittings for $4 to connect to arrestor.

Female B size hose fitting

Male B size fitting using the included adaptor

Male B size hose fitting $54
A2 Pair of Oxygen and Fuel Gas Fittings - Barb slips into the standard 1/4" welding type hose. Other side is a standard Female style "B" hose fitting. You may need to order 2 pairs. One side Female B size hose fitting Other side a barb that fits in a 1/4" ID gas hose - use a hose clamp $5

A30 ox

A31 fuel

Oxygen and Fuel Gas Fittings - The pieces in the picture labled "included". A pair of these are included in the FA10. If you need extra pieces order the A30 and A31 parts. male B size gas hose fitting male B size gas hose fitting $.90 each

Note: Flashback arrestors have an arrow stamped on it to indicate the gas flow direction. Works in only one direction.
* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used.


ALL IN ONE - Combination Flashback Arrestor and Quick-Connect - Order Number QDF30 - $73

Four Functions in a single item. Shorter and less expensive than if purchased separately.

  1. A flashback arrestor
  2. A quick connect and disconnect
  3. An automatic shutoff valve
  4. An internal reverse flow check valve all


Hose Quick Connects

Disconnect your torch easily and quickly for switching to a different torch or to put it away for safe keeping or great for quick classroom set up and take down.

Order # Description Input end is a Output end is a Price
QDB10  Quick Connects (pair) Male B gas hose fitting Female B fitting $38
QDB20  Quick Connects (pair) Male B gas hose fitting Male B hose fitting $38
QDB30  Quick Connects (pair) Female B fitting Male B hose fitting $38


Manifold Gas System

Connect up to six torches to the same gas supply with this manifold system. Included are enough fittings and plugs to make 2 to 6 hose connections. Two manifolds are required, one for oxygen and one for propane. All Brass. Place an order.

Order # Description Price
M6 Manifolds system, Includes 1 block, 7 fittings and 4 plugs - specify Oxygen or Propane $38

Order # Description Price
MB7 Manifold block only, works with oxygen or gas $27
32 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard right handed thread oxygen "B" size hose fitting. .90
33 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard left handed thread gas "B" size hose fitting. Gas fittings have a "line notch" stamped into the nut part of the fitting to identify it as left handed threading. .90
P41P Extra Plug - plugs unused outlets in the manifold block $1.60


Spark Lighter

Use to light torches. Squeeze the handles together to cause a spark. Place an order.

Order #

Description Price
1501 Spark Lighter $2
 Oxygen Concentrator

Gas Regulators

Two regulators are required when you use a two gas, (oxygen and propane) torch like a Minor Burner. They fit between the gas tanks and the gas hose. None are needed if you are using the Hot Head torch.
Item# Gas Description Price
REB93 Oxygen Two gauge. One Stage - Click Here for warranty. Inlet CGA 540. Outlet male "B" fitting $69.00
REB11 Propane Two gauge. One Stage - Click Here for an important choice you need to make - Click here for warranty. Inlet CGA 510. Outlet male "B" fitting $69.00
260 Propane Two gauge. Two Stage - eliminates vapor problems $2.65

The fastest way to order any of these items is to call us toll free at 1-888-4HOTGLASS.


Gas Hoses

Use this gas hose when you use a two gas torch (oxygen and propane) like a Minor Burner. Most torches are attached to the hose by pushing the cut end (no brass fitting) on to the torch and securing with a hose clamp. These hoses have two attached hoses, one for oxygen and one for propane. The end of the hoses are attached to the gas regulators. Propane hose fittings are always left handed threads and oxygen is right handed so there is never a mixup attaching hoses. The green hose is oxygen and propane is red. CAUTION Do not use the easy to find oxygen/acetylene type hoses. The propane gas will rot them. The hoses we sell are made for all types of gas including propane. All hose endings have brass fittings and are female. The fastest way to order any of these items is to call us toll free at 1-888-4HOTGLASS

Item# Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T124 12 ft (3.7 meters) Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side - 1/4" diameter hose $22.00
T254 25 ft (7.7 meters) Female "B" fitting on both ends - 1/4" diameter hose $34.00

The below larger diameter hose is only used if when you need a large hose to fit over the large inlet fittings on some torches. (You can get the smaller 1/4" hose listed above on these large inlet fittings with a bit of effort. A trick is to emerse the end of the hose in very hot water to soften the end.)

Order #

Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T128 12 ft (3.7 meters) Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side - 3/8" diameter hose $22.00
T258 25 ft (7.7 meters) Female "B" fitting on both ends - 3/8" diameter hose $34.00

Y - Connectors for Hose

Y Connector - Connect this fitting at the output of the regulator and attach two hoses so you can use two torches from the same tank. Oxygen and propane Y are packaged and priced separately.

Y Connector with valves - Same as the Y connector described above except has two on/off valves, one for each hose.

Item# Description Output end is a Input end is a Price
101 Y hose connector (oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $19.50
102 Y hose connector (propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $19.50
101V Y hose connector with valve (Oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $32.50
102V Y hose connector with valve (Propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $32.50

* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used.


Flashback Arrestors

Flashback Arrestors - In some rare situations, a flame can travel back down a hose to the gas tank and cause an explosion. This device helps prevent this reverse gas flow and flashback. This device uses a reverse flow check valve and a flame arrestor that stops this flashback flame. Packaged and priced with both an oxygen and a propane arrestor.
A2 is optional, not included.

Item# Description Output end is a Input end is a List Price
FA10 Flashback arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas) Connects directly to the fittings on a torch like the 3AB, 8M and Carlisle. We also include the fitting so you can put this arrestor in the middle of your twin hose. A good place to put this arrestor is a couple feet away from the torch. If you cut the hose you will not have fittings on the ends. Then must order one or two pair of A2 fittings for $5.00 to connect to arrestor.

Female B size hose fitting

Male B size fitting using the included adaptor

Male B size hose fitting $54.00
FA30 Flashback arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas) Connects directly on the regulator. Male B size gas hose fitting Female B size gas hose fitting $54.00
A2 Insert into cut end of hose and secure with hose clamp. Check for leaks. One side Female B size hose fitting Other side a barb that fits in a 1/4" ID gas hose - use a hose clamp $5.00
A30 ox
A31 fuel
Oxygen and Fuel Gas Fittings - The pieces in the picture labeld "included". A pair of these are included in the FA10. If you need extra pieces order the A30 and A31 parts. Male B size gas hose fitting Male B size gas hose fitting $1.50 each

Note: Flashback arrestors have an arrow stamped on it to indicate the gas flow direction. Works in only one direction.
* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used. Requires B size fittings on hose.


ALL IN ONE - Combination Flashback Arrestor and Quick-Connect - Item# QDF30 - $79.00



Four Functions in a single item. Shorter and less expensive than if purchased separately.

  • A flashback arrestor
  • A quick connect and disconnect
  • An automatic shutoff valve
  • An internal reverse flow check valve all

Hose Quick Connects

Disconnect your torch easily and quickly for switching to a different torch or to put it away for safe keeping or great for quick classroom set up and take down.

Item# Description Input end is a Output end is a Price
QDB10 Quick Connects (pair) Male B gas hose fitting Female B fitting $49.00
QDB20 Quick Connects (pair) Hose to Hose Hose to Hose $49.00
QDB30 Quick Connects (pair) Regulator Male B hose fitting $49.00

Manifold Gas System

Connect up to six torches to the same gas supply with this manifold system. Included are enough fittings and plugs to make 2 to 6 hose connections. Two manifolds are required, one for oxygen and one for propane. All Brass.

Custom Manifold Systems: We can help you figure out which parts you would need for your system and pre assemble for no extra charge. Systems might also include quick connects and flashback arrestors. Place an order

Item# Description Price
M6 Manifolds system, Includes 1 block, 7 fittings and 4 plugs - two required - specify Oxygen or Propane $57.50
Item# Description Price
MB7 Manifold block only, works with oxygen or gas $39.00
32 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard right handed thread oxygen "B" size hose fitting. $1.50
33 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard left handed thread gas "B" size hose fitting. Gas fittings have a "line notch" stamped into the nut part of the fitting to identify it as left handed threading. $1.50
P41P Extra Plug - plugs unused outlets in the manifold block $2.00
Example Manifold setup for 3 torches.

Bulk Adaptor Systems

For users of Hot Head Torches or any torches similar to the HotHead torch Save on the cost of propane by using a large bulk refillable propane tank instead of the small disposable fuel gas cylinders. Item# F273701 uses a single hose with the correct fittings on each end. 5 or 12 foot hose.

Y-Propane F271735 Connect two torches with this fitting. This Y fits into a bulk tank - the two other ends fit two F273701 hoses which go to the Hot Head torches.

Item# Description Price
F273701 Bulk adaptor system - 5 Feet $27.00
F273710  Bulk adaptor system - 12 Feet $42.00
F271735 Y-Propane Fitting $32.00


Spark Lighter
Use to light torches. Squeeze the handles together to cause a spark. Place an order.
Retail
1501  Sparklighter
Use to light torches. Squeeze the handles together to cause a spark.
$2.00

 
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